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Postal Apocalypse: (Mostly) Game of Thrones Edition Greetings, my Westerosi window envelopes! As you can probably guess, last week’s episode of Game of Thrones—and its increasing dominance over the pop ...

(Mostly) Game of Thrones Edition Image HBO Greetings my Westerosi window envelopes As you can probably guess last week’s episode of Game of Thronesand its increasing dominance over the pop culture landscapehas filled the ol’ postman’s stolen mailbag to the brim Who Am I Who Are You Why We Learn And Act Differently There are a few spoilers for last week’s episode but more importantly an answer to a question we should have been asking ourselves since the first episode Should we want Daenerys and Jon Snow to fuck Aunt Man Aaron W So I’ve been struggling with this question a lot Is it ok to ‘ship JonDany On the con side they are aunt and nephew which is gross On the pro side it would sidestep Dany needing Jon to bend the knee and is a solution that the northmen would probably accept it would be thematically consistent fireice and it would eliminate almost all of the tension for trying to root for two characters who are at odds with each other due to circumstances beyond their control and the expectations of their subjects Given that I still would come out on the con side except that we already know that some degree of inbreeding e g cousins is generally accepted in Westeros and that the Targaryens in particular practiced an even more exclusive e g siblings marriage policy So the auntnephew dynamic is an absolute deal breaker to modern audiences but maybe wouldn’t be the worst thing in Westeros Lots of reasons it would be good but one BIG reason it is unacceptable Thoughts Shipping is shipping I’ve seen worse than aunt and nephew Much worse And the show is definitely presenting them as future romantic partnersfuckbuddies which makes it as legitimate as these things get Their familial relationship may freak you out but that’s sort of the point GRRM wants to show a medieval feudaltype era with all the awfulness most fantasies skip over The relentless sexism the rape and torture the horror that regular people could and did experience constantly as the result of what the nobility chose to doyou can absolutely complain about how omnipresent it is in his stories andor how it’s portrayed but it’s not inaccurate to the source material of that reality And one part of that reality is medieval and certainly ancient nobility’s tendency toward incest especially between uncles and niecesto the point where its got its own name avunculate marriage As you said the booksshow have already shown that Targaryens have been more than willing to marry within the family in order to keep their bloodline pure so there’s a precedent for Jon and Dany starting a relationship And since we’re talking about an aunt and nephew here since Jon is the son of Dany’s deceased brother Rhaegar and not uncleniece a JonDany hookup would kind of strike a blow for Westerosi gender equality in a tiny messed up way At any rate as a Targaryen Daenerys is obviously going to be down with getting down with Jon Snow as it would be kind of meaningless to sieze the Iron Throne without leaving a new Targaryen line to carry on ruling I am far more skeptical that Jon would be cool with sleeping with his aunt given the rest of Westeros isn’t nearly as cool with incest hence Cersei and Jaime’s hiding of their sexual relationshipwell until Cersei took the throne and decided that yes in fact as queen she gets to have sex with anyone she wants and everyone else has to deal with it Or be tortured and killed But Jon’s problem is easily solved by keeping his parentage from him until after Ice and Fire have fucked each other In fact I suspect Bran is keepingwill keep the truth of Jon’s parentage from everyone until after Daenerys gets pregnant for that very reason The ThreeEyed Raven knows this has to happen so mum’s the word for now Or GRRMor the show for that matter since we know it’s diverging from GRRM’s plan in major wayscould just throw a curveball and have Dany marry Gendry the closest thing King Robert had to a legitimate heir combining the Targaryen and Baratheon lines to create a progeny whose claim to the throne is unassailable throughout Westeros Actually that’s a pretty good idea Image HBO Still via Youtube Jaime in the Water Brett H I see people talking everywhere about how Jaime could possibly be alive but how He’s way at the bottom of the lake and in full armor No way Bronn can hold his breath long enough to get down there cut all the straps to all the pieces of the armor pull them off and then also pull him to safety before they both drown I’m not going to say it’s unrealistic since Jaime was pushed into the water to avoid a dragon but the point of Game of Thrones is that it has fantasy elements but it’s still realistic in the basic laws of physics So isn’t Jaime getting rescued impossible You bring up a good point about fantasy in that the best fantasy has a set of rules even if the audience doesn’t know them and doesn’t break them Someone suddenly having a “hoist person out of lake” spell to save Jaime would be dumb Tyrion running down the hell and begging Dany to have Drogon fish the dude who was about to kill her out of the lake is more realistic for GoT but implausible in terms of Dany’s character and the time it would take for Tyrion to get down to Dany and ask for her to save his brother So that leaves Bronn Here’s one thing we all need to make our peace with first right now Game of Thrones the TV show has begun playing fast and loose with strict reality in favor of presenting the most exciting story possible This is how armies and fleets are moving gargantuan distances inbetween and sometimes even during episodes It’s why Tyrion can pick out Jaime from half a mile away amid a battlefield full of smoke and destruction It’s why Cersei and her allies can suddenly kick ass or all of Highgarden’s gold can get into King’s Landing with a mutter and a handwave There are only nine episodes left total as of the time this mailbag hits the nerdernet The show doesn’t have any time to waste Yes part of the reason the books are so good is because they were sprawling and complicated in the way life is and yes the show is 100 percent abandoning that But the choices were to either have the story on fastforward so it actually ends next year or for Daenerys to have her first battle with Cersei’s forces in the season eight finale So with all that said Since Game of Thrones has forgone its sense of realism a bit I can see it having Bronn manage to dive down to Jaime cutting him out of his armor and dragging him to the surface before he fatally drowns I also as I mentioned in my recap this week think it doesn’t make any narrative sense for Bronn to push Jaime out of the way of a giant cone of dragon breath into a lake only to have him immediately drownif Weiss and Benioff are going to kill the character having Jaime get turned into cinders by Drogon is a much much cooler death So I think the show will forgo realism I mean how was that lake at the side of that road a full 30feet deep right at its edge anyway Bronn will cut Jaime out of his armor and drag him to the surface because Jaime is the one who’s going to give him a castle after all and the Lannister will probably live to fight another day And I also think he’ll be the one to perform those book spoilers valonqar duties and obviously he can’t do that if he’s dead Last time I looked I didn’t see any friendly priests of R’hllor nearby   Image HBO Gone But Not Forgotten Michael V Postman After rewatching GOT from the beginning a few times I believe that Ser Barristan Selmy is one character whose presence would enhance Season 7 while not distracting from the current main plots of the show Ser Barristan would have been the most solid member of Daenerys’ Queensguard due to military and combat experience but his relationship to Rhaegar is most interesting When Dany tells Jon that everyone loves doing what they’re best at Jon disagrees Ser Barristan once told Dany a similar story about her brother Rhaegar preferring singing in the street to killing I also imagine Ser Barristan recognizing the late prince’s resemblance in Jon’s face posture or personality Although Jon is very much Ned Stark in code and hair color there would be a few opportunities for the show to make that connection Are there any dead characters that would’ve enhanced the current story we have without breaking the series Barristan had to die because he had too many answers He knew Rhaegar well and he likely knew what Rhaegar was doing when he kidnapped Lyanna or at the very least he knew whether Lyanna was kidnapped or went with him willingly Even though we know the result of their union was Jon Snow the reason why Rhaegar kidnapped her thus starting a chain of events that killed most of his family and ended their dynasty is such an integral mystery that it’s going to need to be saved until the very end of the series Barristan may well have had those answers The show could get away with not acknowledging this for a bit while he hadn’t been in Daenerys’ service for long and wasn’t completely trusted When Dany realized that Barristan knew her family pretty intimately and was beginning to ask questions about themwell that’s when he had to go Barristan literally died in the same episode he began to tell stories Rhaegar “Sons of the Harpy” episode five So yes Barristan would added a great deal to the proceedings but would have added too much too soon My pick would be either Oberyn or Doran Martell if only so one of them could make the Dorne storyline worth a damn It would be cool so see Dorne have a major role to play in the great war other than serving as Cersei fodder If a good Dorne storyline is off the table I have to go Stannis actually Who Am I Who Are You Why We Learn And Act Differently Seeing him somehow bend the knee to Jon Snow and becoming part of the fight against the White Walkers would be really satisfying on a lot of levels I think But those are just mineadd and explain yours in the comments Runnin’ Through My Veins Sarah M Was the Scorpion spear poisoned Is Drogon The Dragon going to die I’m of two minds about this although both of my reasons why are purely metatextual instead of having anything to do with the logic inside the show Because inside the show Cersei and Qyburnboth of whom really want these dragons dead and already have poison on their mindsshould absolutely have poisoned the giant ballista bolt in an attempt to make it lethal even if it only caused a flesh wound Now would the poison work on the dragon Is it powerful enough Isn’t dragon blood probably hardcore enough to stop it But anyway The reason I don’t think the spear was poisoned is because the show didn’t tell us it was poisoned Certainly Game of Thrones has been content to present mysteries to the viewers that don’t get solved until later but I don’t think the show or the showrunners want to or feel they can waste anymore time on anything that doesn’t hurtle us to the finale Remember at the time this mailbag is being published there are only nine more episodes There’s no time to be coy Also can you imagine how much more tense that battle would have been if we had known the spear was poisoned and Dany didn’t That would have been very effective The reason I think it might be poisoned is because it would take Drogon off the board for a while which would even the odds between Dany and Cersei and then for a chunk of the fight with the White Walkers It’s the Justice LeagueSuperman policyyou have to somehow keep Superman occupied until the very end because otherwise he’d just beat the bad guy in the first five minutes My call Drogon is poisoned like his namesake Remember fiction writers in general and GRRM in particular loves himself some parallelism which also doesn’t bode well for Viserion or Rhaegon But instead of just wasting away he uses his final strength to crawl out of his cave and deliver a final crushing blow to the White Walkers which proves fatal to both them and the dragon A sad Dany goes home and discovers a pile of dragon eggs where Drogon had been laying BOOM Image Marvel Comics SpiderMen 1 art by Jim Cheung Miles Away Jeff L Dear Everyone’s Favorite PostApocalyptic Mail Person You did an awesome Spideycentric Postal Apocalypse a little while back Since then we’ve seen Spidey show up in both Civil War and Homecoming which mentioned the mere existence of Miles Morales in the MCU as a nice little Easter egg Homecoming owes a lot to the look and feel of Bendis’s Ultimate Spidey run I’m wondering if you’ve updated your take on whether we get to see Miles actually take over for Peter in the MCUnot just for the sake of diversity but also for the sake of storytelling Hear me out The Death of SpiderMan arc is excellent fodder for the MCU Spidey and it’s almost like they’re planting the seeds of it In the comics Iron Man Cap Thor and Carol Danvers decide they need to train Peter to become a competent superhero and Spidey’s amassed a rogue’s gallery intent on murdering him In the movies Spidey’s already under Iron Man’s tutelage and Vulture’s most likely still looking to murderize Peter who looks like he’s not done making enemies It would be surprising heartbreaking and bold to see the MCU go this route with the Spidey sequels and Tom Holland is such a terrific actor that he could pull this off so well AND we could see a fresh new Spidey on screen too Do you think Marvel and Sony would even seriously consider going down that route Or will Tom Holland be Peter Parker forever Don’t hold your breath Marvel and Sony picked a very young actor to play Peter specifically so they’d have a lot of years and a lot of movies before he ages out of the role I would guess Holland will be playing the role until 2025 or thereabouts That’s far enough in the future that I can’t predict with any certainly if Miles will get a chance Would both Marvel and Sony agree that it’s time to give Miles the spotlight Evan had a great piece on this very thing by the way Is the Marvel Cinematic Universe still going or has it been rebooted by then Will Sony which still owns the character at the end of the day even still be cooperating with Marvel in eight years And is Sony ever going to be willing to give the role of arguably the most popular and unarguably the most lucrative superhero in the world to someone who isn’t a white guy and risk not maximizing their profits Unfortunately all these things are much more important to the companies that make the movies and put in the millions of dollars to make them than a good story or increasing diversity To be honest I’m shockedand delightedthat Miles Morales is the star of the animated SpiderMan movie that’s due out in late 2018 instead of Peter Parker The pessimist in me says this is Sony paying lip service to its commitment to diversity and spending 100 million or so to get good PR since given “SpiderMan” is in the title it’ll probably still make at least that much back But the dying optimist in me says this is how it begins Sony makes Miles a star in a “lesser” Spidey film it’s a huge hit because both Miles and SpiderMan are awesome and Sony execs suddenly think “Heymaybe SpiderMan doesn’t always need to be a white dude ” After all it’s gotta start somewhere Image Marvel Comics Amazing SpiderMan 36 art by John Romita Jr Scott Hanna and Dan Kemp The Real World Shae R A question that has been on my mind lately is how many real world events took place in the MCUDCEU Did they experience 911 Sandy Hook Columbine Just how much is their history is like ours Does it matter if they’re never going to be mentioned in the movies ever You can murder your way through Metropolis or piss in a jar and blow up a congressional hearing all you want but nothing destroys whatever emotional interest and suspension of disbelief you have in the film by mentioning a real world tragedy Once you’re reminded of the horrors of the real world it gets sort of hard to be invested in Batman doing much of anything Case in point 911 actually did occur in Marvel Comics leading to Amazing SpiderMan 36 in December of 2001 It made more sense to acknowledge the attack immediately after it happened and seeing SpiderMan trying to rescue people alongside the firefighters and rescue workers was served as a genuine tribute to those who saved lives and those who lost their lives that day But then all of Marvel’s supervillains stopped by the rubble of the World Trade Centers to essentially point out the attack was so evil even they were appalled It was a nice sentiment but seeing uberevil brutal foreign dictator Doctor Doom crythis is 100 percent true as you can see in the picture aboveonly made the gulf between the reallife tragedy and the fictional world of superpowered people wearing tights more apparent Image A Game of Thrones cover art Published by Bantam Spectra The Finish Line Benjen Stark Hey Postman hope you survived postapocalyptic ComicCon I’m reading A Game of Thrones the first book for the first time and am exactly half way through the novel I’ve never watched the HBO series but am avid enough of an io9 reader that I know a lot of plot details from the show As much as I’m loving GRRM’s writing and world building I’m starting to get a little fatigued with the size of the narrative and I’m discouraged knowing that the series hasn’t even been finished yet Is it reasonable for me to abandon a series simply because I’m not confident the creator will finish what they started Lord of the Rings is my absolute favorite piece of fiction and is arguably just as complex and daunting as A Song of Ice and Fire but at least it’s complete So this is pretty close to an answer I gave in last week’s mailbag but it’s just a touch different so I beg your forgiveness A lot of people have this problem with a lot of series whether it be TV shows comics or books A similar problem is when a series fails to end when it should which is frequently the case with network TV shows for whom financial success usually trumps storytelling I understand it more if you haven’t started the series yet or if you know the series has ended prematurely because you know if you get invested you’re going to be frustrated Some people can deal with that more than others and to each their own But if you’ve already started Game of Thrones why stop now Why not read all the books that are available What’s the real difference between stopping at book two or book five Either way you’re stuck waiting to read the next book and you don’t know when or even if it’s going to get done Why not readwatch all the material available and give yourself that enjoyment Send me those burning questions nagging mysteries desperate pleas for advice and everything else to postmanio9 com See you soon

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